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Join some of the most well-known and respected individuals in the profession during your 2019 Midwest Clinic day! Lunch with Legends places conference attendees alongside icons of the profession in an engaging and relaxed environment. Don’t miss the opportunity to dialogue, ask questions, hear stories, and more from those that have played a crucial role in the profession’s advancement. A plated lunch will be served. Seating is limited to 100 people. Sign-up is only available through the registration site. If you have already registered for the conference, locate your confirmation email and click on "modify registration".


Greg Bimm

Among Marian’s achievements are 39 consecutive State class marching championships, 22 AA National Championships and 7 BOA Grand National Championships.  Marian’s Concert Bands have performed at 3 MFA National Concert Festivals and numerous conventions including NBA and IlMEA.  The Symphonic band has been the University of Illinois Superstate Honor band numerous times and is undefeated in 39 years of Catholic high school concert competition.

Mr. Bimm has received awards from many organizations including ASBDA, NBA, the Sudler Foundation, Illinois Music Educators Asociation, Illinois Alliance for Arts Education and the Catholic Archdiocese of Chicago.  He is a Lowell Mason Fellow, a member of the Music for All Hall of Fame, was in the inaugural class of the Illinois State University Fine Arts Alumni Hall of Fame. Mr. Bimm was awarded and honorary Doctorate in Music Education by the Vandercook College of Music  and in 1994, he was elected to membership in the American Bandmasters Association.

Ray E. Cramer

Ray E. Cramer holds degrees from Western Illinois University and the University of Iowa, Honorary Doctorates from Western Illinois University and the VanderCook College of Music.  In 2009 he was awarded an Honorary Professorship at the Musashino Academia of Musicae in Tokyo.

Ray E. Cramer was a member of the Indiana University Jacobs School of Music faculty for 36 years.  As the Director of Bands the IU Wind Ensemble earned an international reputation for outstanding musical performances.

He is a past National President of the College Band Directors National Association and The American Bandmasters Association. He also served as president of the Indiana Bandmasters Association, the North Central Division of CBDNA and the Big Ten Band Directors Association. He was a member of the Midwest Clinic Board of Directors for 20 years and was president 13 of those 20 years.  He is an Advisory Board member for the Japan Band Clinic and was elected as an Honorary Member of the Japan Band Directors Association in 2016.

Mr. Cramer has received numerous awards including the Edwin Franko Goldman award (2002), The MENC Lowell Mason Fellow Medallion (2003), Midwest Clinic Medal of Honor (2005), Bands of America Hall of Fame (2006), The Northshore Concert Band Lifetime Achievement Award (2006), the 17th Japan Academic Society of Winds, Percussion and Band Award (2007), The Academy of Wind and Percussion Arts by the National Band Association (2008), the John Paynter Lifetime Achievement Award (2009) the National Band Association “Hall of Fame of Distinguished Conductors” (2009) and the CBDNA “Lifetime Achievement Award.” (2015)

Mr. Cramer remains actively involved in clinics and guest conducting engagements nationally and internationally. He serves as a regular guest conductor for the Musashino Academy of Music in Tokyo. (1990 to present)  He has conducted the Musashino Wind Ensemble on tours throughout Japan and three performances at the Midwest Clinic in 1995, 2006 and 2018.

He and his wife Molly of 53 years, reside in Colorado Springs


Dick Dunscomb

Dick Dunscomb is one of the leading authorities in the field of jazz music and music education. He has been recognized nationally and internationally as a guest conductor, author, adjudicator, clinician and consultant. Through his work with IAJE, Warner Bros. Music, Alfred/Belwin Music and other agencies he has presented more than 200 workshops including conducting and jazz clinics throughout the United States, as well as Australia, Europe, Canada, Sweden, Japan and South America.

Throughout his career, Professor Dunscomb has been recognized with numerous honors and awards. The International Association of Jazz Educators elected Dunscomb to its Hall of Fame. The Midwest Clinic, an international band and orchestra clinic, awarded Dunscomb the prestigious Medal of Honor. He also received numerous awards for his outstanding conducting, teaching and service from several universities. He was the North American Coordinator for the Montreux (Switzerland) International Jazz Festival for 18 years and has served as Executive Director of the Chicago Jazz Ensemble. His most recent publications include, with Dr. Willie Hill, Jr. Jazz Pedagogy: The Jazz Educator’s Handbook and Resource Guide, a publication designed to provide a foundation and structure to plan and implement a successful jazz program, and Jazz Zone...the beginning, a jazz method.

Currently Professor Emeritus, Dunscomb was the former Chair of the Music Department at Columbia College Chicago, the nations premiere visual, and performing, media and communications arts’ college located in Chicago, Illinois. He is Vice President of the board of directors for the Midwest Clinic, the largest annual event for instrumental music in Chicago, Illinois with more than 17,000 participants. He is an educational clinician for Conn-Selmer.


Julie Ann Giroux

Julie Ann Giroux was born in Fairhaven, Massachusetts on December 12, 1961. She graduated from Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge LA in 1984. She started playing piano at 3 years of age and began composing at the age of 8 and has been composing ever since. Her first published work for concert band, published by Southern Music Company was composed at the age of 13.   

Julie began composing commercially in 1984. She was hired by Oscar winning composer Bill Conti as an orchestrator,  her first project with Conti being “North & South” the mini-series. With over 100  film, television and video game credits, Giroux collaborated with dozens of film composers, producers, and celebrities including Samuel Goldwyn, Martin Scorsese, Clint Eastwood, Madonna, Liza Minnelli, Celene Dion, Paula Abdul, Michael Jackson, Paul Newman, Harry Connick Jr. and many others. Projects she has worked on have been nominated for Oscars, Emmys, Grammys and Golden Globe awards. She has won individual Emmy Awards in the field of “Outstanding Individual Achievement in Music Direction”. When She won her first Emmy Award, she was the first woman and the youngest person to ever win that award.  She has won it three times.

Giroux has also published a large category of classical works with emphasis on original compositions for Wind Band which are published by Musica Propria and distributed internationally. She is greatly sought after as a composer and recently completing her 5th Symphony “Sun, Rain & Wind” which premiered in June, 2018. Her music has been recorded and reviewed internationally receiving top reviews and her music has been performed at major music festivals the world over.

Giroux has been a true force in a male dominated field and has accrued many previously male only awards. She is a member of ASCAP, The Film Musicians Fund, Kappa Kappa PSI, Tau Beta Sigma and a member of the American Bandmasters Association. She is a recipient of the Distinguished Service to Music Medal Award, Emmy Awards and was the first female composer inducted into the American Bandmasters Association in 2009.


Gary D. Green

Gary D. Green is Emeritus Professor of Music and Director of Bands at the Frost School of Music at the University of Miami.  While teaching at the University of Miami Frost School of Music in addition to supervising all band activities, he was the conductor of the Frost Wind Ensemble, supervised all graduate conducting students in the wind and percussion area and served as the Chairman of Instrumental Performance for eighteen years.

Prior to coming to Miami, Professor Green served for ten years as Director of Bands the University of Connecticut in Storrs, Connecticut.  While at the University of Connecticut, Professor Green was influential in commissioning and recording new works for winds and percussion including Symphony No. 3 by David Maslanka and A Cornfield in July and the River by William Penn.  Mr. Green was a public school teacher in the Pacific Northwest for 20 years prior to moving to the University of Connecticut.

During his tenure at the University of Miami, professor Green continued the commissioning and performance of important new repertoire for winds and percussion.  Under his direction, the Frost Wind Ensemble has performed on two separate occasions for the convention of the American Bandmasters Association as well as twice for the national convention of the College Band Directors National Association.

Recent commissions and consortia from composers include William Penn, Joel Puckett, Mason Bates, Michael Daugherty, David Maslanka, Paul Dooley, Steve Danyew, Steven Bryant, David Gillingham, James Stephenson, Christopher Theofanidis, John Harbison, James Syler, Eric Whitacre, Frank Ticheli, Thomas Sleeper, Kenneth Fuchs and others.  Urban Requiem by Michael Colgrass was commissioned by the Abraham Frost Commission Series and has become a standard in the repertoire for wind ensemble.  Among other new compositions written for winds and percussion was the commission for the Frost Wind Ensemble of Christopher Rouse’s Wolf Rounds.

He is a member of the Florida Bandmasters Association and has served for numerous years on the Clinics Committee and the Music Committee.  He is a member of the College Band Directors Association and has been elected into the American Bandmasters Association.  


James F. Keene

In 2008, Professor James F. Keene retired from the University of Illinois School Of Music, where he held the titles of Director of Bands and Brownfield Distinguished Professor of Music. Appointed in 1985, he was only the fourth person to hold the Director of Bands position since 1905. During his 23-year tenure at Illinois, the UI Symphonic Band and Wind Symphony, under his direction, were selected to perform for every major music conference in the U.S., have toured internationally and have performed in many of America's most prestigious concert halls, including New York's legendary Carnegie Hall and several performances in Chicago's Orchestra Hall. The Illinois Wind Symphony and Symphonic Band have produced one of the most extensive bodies of commercial band recordings. These recordings have been broadcast on National Public Radio in the U.S., as well as radio programs in Asia, Australia, and several European countries.

Mr. Keene is a Past-President of the prestigious American Bandmasters Association and also served as Chairman of the Board of Directors. He is a Past-President of the National Band Association, having previously served in several other NBA offices, and is a Past-President of The Big Ten Band Directors Association. For several years he served as chairman of the ABA/Ostwald Composition Contest, and is currently a member of the Editorial Board of The Journal of Band Research.

In addition to membership in several professional and honorary societies, Mr. Keene is an Evans Scholar, Past-President of the Champaign Rotary Club, and a Paul Harris Fellow of the Rotary International Foundation. In 1993, Professor Keene was named as an honorary member of the Board of Directors of the International Percy Grainger Society in recognition of his devotion to the music of Grainger and he also serves on the Board of Directors of the John Philip Sousa Foundation and the historic Goldman Memorial Band of New York City. Prior to his appointment at Illinois, Professor Keene taught at all levels, including building nationally recognized programs at East Texas State University (now Texas A and M-Commerce), and at The University of Arizona.

James F. Keene has been a part of Music for All's visionary leadership since serving on the Bands of America advisory board in 1979 with fellow luminaries William Revelli and John Paynter. He has been an evaluator for the National Concert Band Festival since 1995 and conducted the Honor Band of America in 2007.

In 2002, Professor Keene was named Honorary Life Member of the Texas Bandmasters Association, becoming only the sixth person to be so honored in the 55-year history of that organization. He is in constant demand as conductor, clinician and adjudicator and has appeared in those capacities in forty-four states and on five continents. In 2009, Professor Keene was installed into the Bands of America Hall of Fame, and in 2013 honored by Phi Beta Mu as Outstanding Bandmaster of the Year. He continues to be in constant demand as a conductor, clinician, and adjudicator of bands and orchestras, appearing in those capacities in forty-four states and across four continents.


Craig Kirchhoff

Prior to his appointment to the faculty of the University of Minnesota, Professor Kirchhoff served in a similar capacity as Director of Bands at The Ohio State University for fourteen years, as Director of Bands at Washington State University for two years, and Associate Director of Bands at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee for one year.  Mr. Kirchhoff was the recipient of The Ohio State University Alumni Distinguished Teaching Award and The Ohio State University School of Music Distinguished Teaching Award.  Professor Kirchhoff serves as an advisor to the BandQuest Series published by the American Composers Forum, he joined James Galway, Eddie Daniels, Donald Hunsberger, Wynton Marsalis, and Dawn Upshaw on the Advisory Board for SmartMusic produced by the MakeMusic Corporation, and he serves as the Artistic Advisor for the Windependence Wind Band Series published by Boosey & Hawkes.

Professor Kirchhoff is past president of the College Band Directors National Association and is a member of the American Bandmasters Association, the National Band Association, the World Association of Symphonic Bands and Ensembles, the Music Educators National Conference, and served as the founding editor and principal advisor of the College Band Directors National Association Journal.

Professor Kirchhoff has appeared as guest conductor, clinician, and lecturer throughout the United States, Australia, Canada, China, Japan, Taiwan, Europe, and Scandinavia.  He enjoyed a long association with the Tokyo Kosei Wind Orchestra during Frederick Fennell’s tenure as Music Director and he has recorded with them on the Kosei Publishing label.  Professor Kirchhoff was awarded the Midwest International Band and Orchestra Clinic Medal of Honor in 2018, was presented with the College Band Directors National Association LifeTime Achievement Award in 2019, and will be awarded the Phi Beta Mu Bandmaster of the Year Award at the 2019 Midwest Clinic.  Professor Kirchhoff serves as a Yamaha Master Educator.

Larry Livingston

Larry Livingston is a distinguished conductor, educator, and administrator, and a highly respected motivational speaker.  The founding Music Director of the Illinois Chamber Orchestra, Livingston has appeared with the Houston Symphony and in the Los Angeles Philharmonic Green Umbrella Series.  He has conducted at the Festival de Musique in Evian, France, and has led the Stockholm Wind Orchestra, as well as the Leopoldinum Chamber, Chopin Academy, and Wroclaw Philharmonic Orchestras in Poland.   He served as Music Director of the Pan Pacific Festival Orchestras in Sydney, participated in the International Jazz Festival in Rome, and conducted electro-acoustic ensemble concerts in Tokyo under the auspices of Yamaha International.  Mr. Livingston has led the Houston Symphony, the Los Angeles Philharmonic Green Umbrellas Series, the American Youth Symphony Orchestra, the Young Musicians Foundation Orchestra, the USC Thornton Chamber and Symphony Orchestras in Los Angeles, the USC Thornton Contemporary Music Ensemble in Berlin, and served on the jury for the renowned Besancon International Conducting Competition in Besancon, France.

Mr. Livingston has performed with soloists Keiko Abe, Ran Blake, Shelly Berg, Maureen Forrester, Adolph Herseth, Lawrence Lesser, Yehudi Menuhin, Robert Merrill, Mark O’Connor, Christopher O’Riley, Itzhak Perlman, Donald Sinta, Ralph Kirshbaum, Nadja Salerno-Sonnenberg, John Walz and Time for Three, and has premiered and/or recorded works by Shelton Berg, Paul Cooper, Mario Davidovsky, Robert Erickson, Ernst Krenek, Kasia Livingston, Edwin London, Pauline Oliveros, Russell Peck, Roger Reynolds, and Yuji Takahashi.

Mr. Livingston frequently appears with professional, festival, collegiate, and all-state wind ensembles, bands and orchestras throughout the United States, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand.  From 1983 to 2002, he served as a conductor in the University of Michigan All-State Program at Interlochen, has been the Conductor of the Festival Orchestra at Idyllwild Arts since 1989, and is the Music Director of Music for All’s National Honors Orchestra. .

From 1997 to 2001, Mr. Livingston regularly toured Germany and Slovakia with the Internationale Junge Orchesterakademie.  The performances and subsequent recordings were "the most successful in this organization's history," according to its director.  In the last decade, he has conducted extensively in Eastern Europe, and particularly throughout Poland, leading orchestras in Warsaw, Wroclaw, Jelenia Gora, Bialystok, and Katowice, attracting consistent critical acclaim.  Reviews described “long, unending applause, enthusiastic cheers, like at a rock concert, standing ovation.”  

Mr. Livingston has appeared with the famed Landes Jugend Orchester, served as clinician and guest conductor at the College Band Directors National Conference in Alice Tully Hall, and led All-State Ensembles across the United States including Texas on eleven occasions, an unprecedented record.  He has also twice conducted the George Enescu Bucharest Philharmonic Orchestra in Romania, served as Music Director of Thornton School Orchestras, and was Principal Juror for the 3rd Annual Winnipeg Symphony International Conducting Symposium.  In 2013-18, Maestro Livingston conducts the All-State Bands or Orchestras of Arizona, Kentucky, California, Colorado, Florida, Massachusetts, Tennessee, Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, New Mexico, Washington, Michigan, and Texas, lead the Sewanee Music Festival Orchestra, serve again as clinician for the Disney Honors Program, and return to Katowice, Poland to conduct the opening concert in an international festival of academy orchestras.  As well, he will teach in the conducting workshops of the University of Texas, Austin, the University of Texas, San Antonio, and the University of Colorado.

A graduate of the University of Michigan, Mr. Livingston studied conducting with Laurence Livingston, Elizabeth Green, William Revelli, Rafael Druian, and Herbert Zipper.  He also did doctoral studies at the University of California, San Diego.  Mr. Livingston served as Vice President and Music Director of the New England Conservatory of Music in Boston, where he was also Conductor of the Symphony Orchestra and, subsequently, became Dean of the Shepherd School of Music and Elma Schneider Professor at Rice University in Houston.  From 1986 until 2002, Mr. Livingston was Dean of the USC Flora L. Thornton School of Music during which time he secured the School’s naming gift from Flora Thornton, raised more than 100 million dollars, and where he is now Chair of the Conducting Department.  The first music administrator accepted into the Harvard University Executive Education Program, he is a recipient of the Hall of Fame Award from the University of Michigan, the Life in the Arts Award from Idyllwild Arts, and an Outstanding Teacher Award from the USC Center for Religion.  As a motivational speaker, he has established a national reputation for inspiring presentations to business and education leaders across the United States.  From 2008 to 2015, Mr. Livingston was Director of Educational Initiatives for the Guitar Center where he created and led the national educational quest, ALL IN.  He is a consultant to the Conn-Selmer Corporation and, at the request of Quincy Jones, Mr. Livingston chairs the Education Committee of the Quincy Jones Musiq Consortium.   

In 2013, Mr. Livingston appeared in the “Lights Out” episode of Glee and was featured as a mentor in the USA Cable Network Television series, “The Moment.”

E. Daniel Long

E. Daniel Long is the Founding Director of the Youth Symphony Orchestra, Community Music School of Ann Arbor (Michigan).  Mr. Long has appeared as a conductor/clinician at the Midwest Clinic (Chicago), Music Educators National Conference (MENC), American String Teachers Association (ASTA), and national, state, and regional conferences.  He served as president of the Michigan American String Teachers Association.  Mr. Long is the recipient of numerous awards, including the Midwest Clinic Medal of Honor and the ASTA Elizabeth A. H. Green School Educator Award.  He was awarded the Michigan Band and Orchestra Association’s Teacher of the Year and the Michigan ASTA Teacher of the Year. He holds degrees from Chadron State College (Nebraska) and the University of Colorado.  E. Daniel Long began his teaching career in Nebraska.  He taught for thirty-five years in the Ann Arbor Public Schools.  He is the recipient of the University of Colorado, College of Music, Alumnus of the Year and Chadron State College’s Distingished Service Award and was inducted into the Chadron State College Music Hall of Fame.  He has been a member of the editorial board for the Music Educator Journal and the American String Journal and has authored articles for The Instrumentalist, Music Educator Journal and American String Journal.

Camilla Stasa

Camilla Stasa is the Director of Participant Relations & Special Projects at Music for All. Founded in 1975, Music for All is about building leaders and celebrating teachers. A non-profit educational institution, Music for All’s programs include the Music for All National Festival; Music for All Summer Symposium; the Bands of America Regional, Super Regional, and Grand National Championships; Affiliate Regional Music Festival; Advocacy in Action Awards; and more.

A graduate of Eastern Michigan University, she taught in secondary schools prior to her arrival at Music for All in 1989. She left Music for All briefly in the 2000s to work in the private energy sector, and then as Assistant Director of Admissions at VanderCook College of Music, before returning to Music for All in her current role.

In addition to being a well-known face of Music for All, Cam’s been “the voice” of several music events across the country. She has been the Master of Ceremonies at the Chicagoland Invitational Concert Band Festival since 2003 and for more than 25 years has announced the Lake Park Lancer Joust in Roselle, IL. Cam has announced the Annual State of Illinois Invitational High School Marching Band Championship at Illinois State University and, in 2018, became the first female announcer for Bands of America Championships.

In March 2014, Cam was inducted into Music for All’s Bands of America Hall of Fame. 

Mallory Thompson

Mallory Thompson is director of bands, professor of music, coordinator of the conducting program, and holds the John W. Beattie Chair of Music at Northwestern University. In 2003 she was named a Charles Deering McCormick Professor of Teaching Excellence. As the third person in the university's history to hold the director of bands position, Thompson conducts the Symphonic Wind Ensemble, teaches undergraduate and graduate conducting, and administers all aspects of the band program. She has recorded five albums with the Northwestern University Symphonic Wind Ensemble on the Summit Records label.

Thompson received the Bachelor of Music Education degree and Master of Music degree in conducting from Northwestern University, where she studied conducting with John P. Paynter and trumpet with Vincent Cichowicz. She received the Doctor of Musical Arts degree from the Eastman School of Music, where she studied with Donald Hunsberger.

Maintaining an active schedule as guest conductor, conducting teacher, and guest lecturer throughout the United States and abroad, Dr. Thompson has had the privilege of teaching conducting to thousands of undergraduates, graduate students, and professional educators. She is especially proud of her 53 graduate conducting students and the hundreds of outstanding Symphonic Wind Ensemble members with whom she has had the joy of making music at Northwestern. She treasures her relationship with the Wildcat Marching Band and is honored to preserve and grow Northwestern’s legacy.

Dr. Julian Earl White

Dr. Julian Earl White, retired Distinguished Professor of Music, Director of Bands and Chairman of the Music Department at Florida A&M University, graduated from Florida A&M University earning a Bachelor’s Degree in Music Education. He later received a Master’s Degree from the University of Illinois, and the Doctor of Philosophy Degree from The Florida State University. Dr. White served as Band Director of The William M. Raines High School for 10 years. Under Dr. White’s leadership, the Florida A&M University Wind Ensemble presented a concert at the American Bandmasters Association Convention, and numerous others across the country. In 2009, the Wind Ensemble was invited to perform a concert at Carnegie Hall. The internationally acclaimed “Marching 100”rendered performances at three Super Bowls, The Grammys, The ESPY nationally televised awards ceremony, CBS Game Day, and the Inaugural Parade for President Barak Obama.

Dr. White was the recipient of the Distinguished Professor/Advanced Teacher of the Year Award, the University Superior Teacher Accomplishment Award, and was a three-time recipient of the University Teacher of the Year Award. Association Distinguished Alumni Award. He was also honored to receive the Kappa Kappa Psi National Honorary Band Fraternity, Inc. National Service Award, the highest award bestowed upon a member of the fraternity. He was selected for membership in History Makers of America. The Oral History Interview of Dr. Julian E. White is a permanent part of the History Makers Collection housed in the Library of Congress. The Mayor, and City Council A street in Jacksonville, Florida was renamed “Julian Earl White, Ph.D. Parkway,” The William M. Raines High School music suite was named “The Dr. Julian E. White Fine Arts Complex”. In commemoration of the World War I centennial, Dr. White serves as Director of the replicated 369th Fighting Regiment Band (Harlem Hell Fighters) New York City, New York. Dr. White was selected as a Florida Bandmasters Association Legacy Award Recipient.

Gladys Stone Wright

Gladys Stone Wright started on clarinet in Wasco, OR in 1937 with a woman band director, Evelyn Scott. She attended the Univ. of Oregon where Charlotte Plummer, conductor of the Women’s Marine Band during WWII, also graduated. Although very few women conducted bands during that period, Gladys always felt she had two real mentors. Her first position was Elmira HS (enrollment 200) in a poor lumbering community. That year the band qualified for State Finals and was one of only 4 superiors given. At the end of her fifth year, her band played at the NWMENC in Bellingham, WA. In 54, with Al now at Purdue, she began teaching at Otterbein HS (enrollment 100), taking them to Indiana MENC in 59 and subsequently to Mid-West in 60 as the first woman with a high school band to perform there. When Otterbein consolidated she started teaching at Klondike (enrollment 300). She organized the WBDNA. She organized La Banda de Amistad, a summer traveling band (Mexico and Central America). Klondike consolidated into Wm. Henry Harrison HS, where she taught the remainder of her career. This band’s main achievements were an ASBDA National Convention performance and a Gold Medal in Open Class at the World Music Contest in Kerkrade, Holland. Gladys was the first woman elected to the ABA, the first women to be inducted into the NBA Hall of Fame, the first honorary woman member of Phi Beta Mu and the third woman to be inducted into ASBDA. Gladys and Al organized the US Collegiate Wind Bands who traveled over 30 summers throughout Europe and England. Some of the numerous awards Gladys has received are: Tau Beta Sigma Service to Music Award Sudler Gold Medal, Sousa Foundation International Women’s Conductor Hall of Fame. As a couple they have received The Midwest Clinic  Medal of Honor, and Lifetime Achievement Award, plus ASBDA Goldman & Harding awards, and the Phi Beta Mu’s Intl. Bandmasters award. Al, 103, and Gladys 94, are having a wonderful life together in the band world.